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Abdul Basit
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PostSubject: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptyThu May 31, 2012 4:02 pm

Time to start over, everybody. smile

So the Mini hasn't gotten much loving after it's last outing at Area 2 over a year ago. I was only messing around trying to keep up with everybody with a silver can. Took the inside line against Andy (if I remember correctly), went too close to the cone and flipped it. It rolled over a few times and I had lost throttle. I figured a cable must have come lose. But it was my speed control that had given up.

I then got it a Moped V16r so I could compete in the Summer Series. Then the rebuild got abandoned halfway when I couldn't find a team. No worries, time to start it up again.

On with the build:

The car, after a quick clean up:

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It looks like a proper track beater, doesn't it?
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I didn't know you could crash so hard with a silver can. The screw on the battery release actually stamped the body. You can see the two round marks under the door handle and above the Proline decal:
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It's not much as it is. And it won't be much when it's done either, but I like the concept of it. So here goes.
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PostSubject: Re: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptyThu May 31, 2012 4:57 pm

Good idea and a good start, keep it up

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PostSubject: Re: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptyThu May 31, 2012 5:28 pm

Get it built. I seem to recall that there were some spares at t&u if you need some.

Jay was using silver can last week and was surprisingly comppetitive.

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PostSubject: Re: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptyThu May 31, 2012 5:34 pm

Thanks guys.

@Andy, thanks for the heads up. I'll give them a call and see if they've got anything I need.


Has anybody tried using any grease from Ace or another hardware store? Hobby tubes are too little so they'll add up quickly if I do frequent maintenance. Never needed much with the drifters as they're all belt driven and they've got FOWs and Spools.

More pictures in a bit. smile
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PostSubject: Re: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptyThu May 31, 2012 6:34 pm

With grease less is more.

Where are you planning on using it anyway ? I use a small spec of the very sticky silver anti-wear grease in my gear diff, everything else is dry.

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PostSubject: Re: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptyThu May 31, 2012 6:55 pm

Duane wrote:
With grease less is more.

Where are you planning on using it anyway ? I use a small spec of the very sticky silver anti-wear grease in my gear diff, everything else is dry.

Duane

At ProRc.

I'll just get some AW grease then. Time to dig through my stuff hoping I find some.

Thanks. smile
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PostSubject: Re: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptyThu May 31, 2012 8:03 pm

I meant where are you using grease on the car !

I haven't raced in so long I have no idea whether I am fast enough to be competitive so you might not want to go with my suggestions, but I am pretty sure no-one is using more than a match head of grease on their minis.

Over to you all to tell me I am wrong -

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PostSubject: Re: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptyThu May 31, 2012 8:51 pm

I have the diff very tight, but using shims, not grease ,to make it tighter, but yeah AW grease inside the diff is useful. I use a small amount of white grease on the gearbox gears.

The best way to reduce friction in the drivetrain is to get rid of the grease in the bearings and put a light oil in instead.
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PostSubject: Re: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 12:01 am

I also use shims in my diff to tighen it up.

As for grease or oil, I don't like either since they attrat dirt. I use a dry lubricant, and buy it from the cycling shop like wolfi's. I use it in my brearings and most other spots I want to lub including M chassis gears. Cyclists use it for the same reason, since it does not attract dirt on the chain and gears.

It is wet when you apply it, but it dries, and leaves a teflon dry lubricant.
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PostSubject: Re: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 12:02 am

Greg, Shhhh ! your giving away all the secrets.
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PostSubject: Re: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 12:16 am

Grease the gears.. do we really need to? Havent opened up my chassis since assembly lol

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PostSubject: Re: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 1:30 am

Teflon spray.. thumbs_up

Used to do it.. Gonna do it again this time.. very happy

And yup.. Strip off the grease and put bearing oil..


I think i should have put a +1 to everyone aside from jay.. Lol!
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PostSubject: Re: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 1:42 am

laughing I'd keep up with you with my silver can Lance but sadly mine cant fly as high as your haha

But seriously maybe I can fit my 13T and lower the throtle down so I can atleast keep up with your ST's very happy

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PostSubject: Re: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 2:52 am

@jay.. wait no more as i have ordered us some ST cans... it will be here in dxb come monday or tuesday.

i also use shims instead of oil/grease in my geardiff and the rest just applied AW... just a small amount
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PostSubject: Re: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 2:56 am

Thanks for the inputs guys. I ended up using AW grease for now. Figured I should at least get the car in a running state before I fine tune the diff tightness. But I like the bicycle grease idea that Gerg shared.

@Duane: Oops. Silly me. I meant for all the gears.

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PostSubject: Re: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 3:06 am

Some updates:

Started off by taking down the rear end first:
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More stuff taken off:
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Rear end pretty much all taken down:
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Silver can taken out. Doesn't look too bad:
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This one's for Jay. Here's what the insides of your diffs might look like blum3 :
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Nice and clean:
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Had great lighting at the time, so I took another picture:
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Now to put it all back together again. smile


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PostSubject: Re: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptyFri Jun 01, 2012 11:30 pm

Hi,
What did you use to clean the grease off, it works a lot better than anything I have used.

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PostSubject: Re: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptySat Jun 02, 2012 2:49 pm

Duane wrote:
Hi,
What did you use to clean the grease off, it works a lot better than anything I have used.

Duane

WD-40.
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PostSubject: Re: M05 - Budget racer build log   M05 - Budget racer build log EmptySat Jun 02, 2012 7:08 pm

Abdul Basit wrote:
Duane wrote:
Hi,
What did you use to clean the grease off, it works a lot better than anything I have used.

Duane

WD-40.


Works for just about everything.. very happy
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