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Jay
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PostSubject: Re: Diff Discussion   Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:40 pm

i have an extra ball diff set with me which came with the kit.. placed on the rear then replaced it with a spool. maybe ill replace the front one-way with the ball diff for now.

one-way is important for drifting so i will still need replacement. but when i use the evo with FOW for touring i spin out when breaking lol so what i do is just release the gas in advance when entering corners, no late braking!

i cant really combine the two setups so i really need a seperate kit for touring clown
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PostSubject: Re: Diff Discussion   Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:29 pm

Agreed, ball diff or spool required for touring, one way for drift. I dont think I got a spare ball diff with mine,.....damnit.
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PostSubject: Re: Diff Discussion   Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:24 pm

the best is, spool front and balldiff on rear!
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PostSubject: Re: Diff Discussion   Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:57 pm

Bandit wrote:
the best is, spool front and balldiff on rear!


Doesn't that cause understeer? scratch

AdBull.
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PostSubject: Re: Diff Discussion   Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:04 pm

do not question the king!!!!

lool bandit
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cathurga
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PostSubject: Re: Diff Discussion   Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:15 pm

King Bandit....

Allow me to rephrase my previous statement, for the sake of clairty:

Touring - Front spool, rear ball diff
Drifting - Front one-way, rear locked ball/gear/spool.
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PostSubject: Re: Diff Discussion   Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:26 am

Abdul Basit wrote:
Doesn't that cause understeer? scratch
AdBull.


you can always adjust the front toe setting to lessen the understeer.. having a front spool will help you car be more stable in a straight line.. but still, this depends on the driver's preference.. you can not tell somebody that his settings are wrong as per your driving style..

"to each is his own"
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PostSubject: Re: Diff Discussion   Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:51 am

front spool avoid spinning when breaking :cheers:
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PostSubject: Re: Diff Discussion   Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:20 am

laNcELot wrote:
you can always adjust the front toe setting to lessen the understeer.. having a front spool will help you car be more stable in a straight line.. but still, this depends on the driver's preference.. you can not tell somebody that his settings are wrong as per your driving style..

"to each is his own"


Toe in will make it more stable in a straight line, toe out give more steering when entering corners.

KING OF POP? hahahahaha!
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PostSubject: Re: Diff Discussion   Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:17 pm

Ahhhh..I see >.>
What do you guys use to measure camber, caster, toe in, toe out and stuff?

O.T...AAAAH! Sorry >.<

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PostSubject: Re: Diff Discussion   Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:21 pm

Bandit wrote:
laNcELot wrote:
you can always adjust the front toe setting to lessen the understeer.. having a front spool will help you car be more stable in a straight line.. but still, this depends on the driver's preference.. you can not tell somebody that his settings are wrong as per your driving style..

"to each is his own"


Toe in will make it more stable in a straight line, toe out give more steering when entering corners.

KING OF POP? hahahahaha!



Rear toe in DA KING?
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PostSubject: Re: Diff Discussion   Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:53 pm

yes lance toe in for rear am i the Scorpion King? hahahahah

AB this is the one you will use.



http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/rc-system-hudy-universal-exclusive-touring-cars-109305-pi-22451.html?picID=1
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PostSubject: Re: Diff Discussion   Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:21 pm

take for example my TRF

i built the Diffs in the wrong way so as to under steer the car on turn in, so i have to use my power to lose grip, but having understeer on a belt means that im gonna have stability on the straights, it also means that once i start a drift i have to fight to keep the car sideways using combined throttle and steer since the front is pulling harder the the rear

like what lance said......each drivr has their preference, i like an added challenge....instead of trying to get the kit to suit you....why dont you try adjsting your driving style to the kit, there has to be some sort of compromise between machine and driver, but you still have to strive to get the best setup you can and from there yu start to adjust your driving style.....

being a DK doesnt happen overnight, it takes some time depending on how your circumstances are between yourself and your kit
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PostSubject: Re: Diff Discussion   Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:30 am

so... since this thread is about ball diffs... how tight you should apply to your diffs for touring?

my current set up now is F/R ball diffs super tight smile

from my understanding, tight diffs means less spin of the wheel that has less traction. so more push while going thru turns.

less spin, less lose of power right?
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PostSubject: Re: Diff Discussion   Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:05 pm

yip less spin does equal more power!

Generally, you can set the front diff a bit more loosely, as most of the drive force comes from the rear of the car. You can also use the tightness of the front diff as a tuning aid. To make the car easier to drive, run the front diff tighter. This will smooth out the steering and make the car pull out of the turns better. For more responsive steering, especially in tighter turns, try running the front diff more loosely.

When running in high-grip conditions, and wheelspin isn’t an issue you can set your diffs tightly.

You can check ifyour diff is set correctly by holding the spur gear and one of the driven wheels and try to turn the opposite wheel—it should be very near to impossible to do so.
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