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PostSubject: Re: Hachi Roku is BACK!   Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:33 pm

I don't know guys. Call me kill joy but this isn't making me any happy.

For one, it looks like a western Industrial Designer designed the car.
From where I'm standing. It looks too exotic for the Japanese taste.

Next, why are they testing a car that looks nothing like the concept car.
It seems like they used a hatch-back Lexus.
Aerodynamics will be totally off.

Another, the total essence of the AE86 is taken away as the entire car is mixed with a foreign blood (Subaru).

Of course, it looks great and I should hope it perform great too.
But saying that it's a descendant of the AE86 just makes me ask more questions.

I guess it's Toyota's fault that they didn't continue the Hachi Roku legacy on a regular basis.
i.e. : like Nissan's Skyline. Atleast we weren't so shocked to see the complete transformation of the R34 to the R35.

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PostSubject: Re: Hachi Roku is BACK!   Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:50 pm

toyota did continue the AE86 but in a sedan form and front wheel drive took over the market after AE86 there is AE88 ,89, 90 and so on up to 101 i think.

only lately they realized that the AE86 has a potential to be a really good car and a drifter and not like the nissan GT-R's that is born to be a race car.

collaboration with subaru saves toyota money and sharing of technologies are now common in the motor industry nowadays.
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PostSubject: Re: Hachi Roku is BACK!   Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:01 pm

thumbs_up good point ian!,thanx for the blast from the past,i never knew that toyota had updated versions of the AE86..thats valuable info.thanx
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PostSubject: Re: Hachi Roku is BACK!   Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:08 pm

more of AE86

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_AE86
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PostSubject: Re: Hachi Roku is BACK!   Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:53 pm

Yeah, you know your cars Sir Ian!

Wasn't it replaced by the AE92? From what I know, the AE85 and the AE86 were the only 2 RWD Corolla's ever made.

Dad had an AE86 last week, at his showroom, it was soo cool! It had the Panda theme. In really good condition and it had the spring from the E-brake removed... So I'm pretty sure it's done some Dorifto! And there are a few A92s also.... They are nothing like the Hachi Roku!

It's so small, and when you read the specifications you might think it's rubish... But it's actually so brilliant!

....Mind you, 85% of them came with LSDs!
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PostSubject: Re: Hachi Roku is BACK!   Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:18 pm

Agreed...they did continue the model numbering...but what about the performance?

The AE86, correct me if I'm wrong, was the last RWD corolla.
And that, I believe, is what seperated it from it's younger corolla brothers.

Plus I doubt that this FT86 will have the 'corolla' tag.

I guess we can forget about the N/A engine of the AE86 that we all know and love.
The AE86 was a humble car. This is your typical 'showy' sports car.

So for me, no they aren't related.

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PostSubject: Re: Hachi Roku is BACK!   Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:52 pm

.j0sh wrote:
Agreed...they did continue the model numbering...but what about the performance?

The AE86, correct me if I'm wrong, was the last RWD corolla.
And that, I believe, is what seperated it from it's younger corolla brothers.

Plus I doubt that this FT86 will have the 'corolla' tag.



Correct in both cases Josh. The engine outputs have always been the same. Put a good condition AE86 and a 92 on the Dyno, you'll get the same figures. It's just that the RWD version was a good drifter...

Actually Josh, this isn't even an official Hachi Roku or AE86, or a corolla. It's an FT86. Period. Now it's our imagination that tells us that it's a decendant of the legendary 'Eight six.

What Toyota has done here, is that they've finally brought a RWD coupe back to their line up. It's been a while since the Supra left the line up back in 2002 with the JZ specs.


...So yeah... This isn't really a Hachi Roku people.. It's just another RWD coupe... It's specifications are SIMILIAR to the Hachi Roku... AND THAT IS ALL. This IS NOT a Hachi Roku.
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PostSubject: Re: Hachi Roku is BACK!   Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:58 pm

what about the Toyota Soarer? I believe it's quite competitive in the drift scene.
Hehe.

Sorry for flaming your topic Abdul.
I was just expressing my own opinions.

Peace dude. =)

Note to All:
Do not believe everything on Wikipedia. They aren't always 100% true and complete.

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PostSubject: Re: Hachi Roku is BACK!   Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:06 pm

Isn't the Toyota Soarer discontinued? I thought both, the Lexus, and the Toyota versions are discontinued... Back in 2004 if I'm right? I'll never forget that winged lion emblem though...

You weren't flamming blum3
You were expressing your own opinion, it's all cool. Sorry if I made it sound like I was ticked off, trust me, I was CENTURIES away... blum3

Come to think of it... Even if it isn't like the AE86 (it has no reason to be like it, it's just that the AE86 is one of the most bad ass cars that Toyota have ever made/discontinued pointlessly), it should have been more JDM.
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PostSubject: Re: Hachi Roku is BACK!   Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:43 pm

Abdul Basit wrote:
Isn't the Toyota Soarer discontinued? I thought both, the Lexus, and the Toyota versions are discontinued... Back in 2004 if I'm right? I'll never forget that winged lion emblem though...


I know it's discontinued. I was just mentioning it.
=P

Abdul Basit wrote:
Come to think of it... Even if it isn't like the AE86 (it has no reason to be like it, it's just that the AE86 is one of the most bad ass cars that Toyota have ever made/discontinued pointlessly), it should have been more JDM.


Maybe we have to look at Toyota on a worldwide market?
They might be trying to satisfy everyone without focusing on only one target market.
So they have to cut back on costs and so on, just to release a new idea.

Again, my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Hachi Roku is BACK!   Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:32 pm

BUMP

Just came across some newer pictures. Don't know about you guys, but I'm happy to know that this idea still hasn't been put into the shredder =D






...That picture is one of the most epic pictures of all time. ^^^^^^


I'm still wondering what kind of changes will be made to the production version. Surely the interior won't be this bold, right?



...Am I the only one who noticed the "ABS" switch? HAHA! Next time they take this car for a test run... It better be sideways! At the EBISU!

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PostSubject: Re: Hachi Roku is BACK!   Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:19 pm

Abdul Basit wrote:

...That picture is one of the most epic pictures of all time. ^^^^^^


I'm guessing that they are expecting the FT86 to become one of their 'legends' in the long run.

The interior isn't bad at all. If you're someone who likes stock cars.

But if this car were to join the D1 series, I feel that they'd have to remove the entire dashboard just to place straight-to-the-point gauges, steering wheel, etc.

But the overall design isn't bad at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Hachi Roku is BACK!   Tue Mar 23, 2010 9:32 pm

I like it......................would appreciate if it was a bit less curvy though.
Lets hope they have sensable prising in Dubai.
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PostSubject: Re: Hachi Roku is BACK!   Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:00 pm

@Josh, I agree. The interior actually looks cool. But I think it'll always remain a concept (or for a while), such interiors don't usually reach the market. The Toyota IQ had a similiar one when it was in it's concept stages. They'll probably make it simpler and add Carbon fiber and graphite to it to give it a better look, just like under the gear knob.

And yeah... D1 people do that.. But then again, if you change the dash, you can't compete in the street legal class.


@Samaj, sensible pricing is something you should hope for AFTER they call it street legal. Most of the quick Japanese cars aren't street legal here.


Is it just me, or is the entire roof bit (pillars, roof, windows) cut and stuck from the GT-R? In the first picture it looks exactly like it! Or maybe it's just me being silly...
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PostSubject: Re: Hachi Roku is BACK!   Tue Mar 23, 2010 10:05 pm

paul@play wrote:


ps toyota is bringing cool back with that car! love the GTResque profile side windows!


Definate GTR styling! exactly what i said in my first post!

also got some rx8 styling.....will be interesting to see how much more refinement it will undergo before a production version is released
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