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Abdul Basit
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PostSubject: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptySat May 22, 2010 11:17 pm

Just about done with my steering mod. Now all I need to do is get the drive belts from Papi Ian, install the gears, and I'm set!

The gears I'll be using:

Center pulley for the rear: 26t (thanks to Sir Lance)
Center pulley for the front: 10t
Differential pulley for the rear: 30t
Differential pulley for the front: 42T/40T

... Other bits that await installation:
Threaded oil shocks
Graphite shock towers
And hopefully, a graphite chassis, just need to convice dad a lil' bit more!

Now the pictures...

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... Oh, and I need to modify some universals so there is less play when on full lock... =/
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptySun May 23, 2010 3:12 am

nice well done

please i need to know the part are from where to get ??

meaning pulleys and belts
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptyTue May 25, 2010 12:34 pm

Nice job Abdul.

But one thing I want to ask is, are you getting any Ackerman with that steering mod?
I've heard that the ball connector from the steering link to the ball connector of the knuckles MUST be parallel (when steered) to achieve zero ackerman.

Give me an update, I plan to do that same with my kit.
=)
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptyTue May 25, 2010 7:05 pm

Thanks Josh.

Ackerman? Pfft... Easy blum3

I need a longer turn buckle, and then I'll have absolutely ZERO ackerman, and two more longer tie rods, then I'll have crazIER steering angles.

Anyway, I can't post pictures of it as I haven't done the mod yet, but I was looking at this wreck in the scrap with dad the other day, and I managed to get a good glimpse of this tricked out Jeep.

Dad told me what he had done, it's called Pitman steering. It's simple, just use a turnbuckle that runs from knuckle to knuckle, this should eliminate ackerman, if not, reduce it.

P.S, there is a massive problem with my steering system right now, it helps to have the turn buckle at 90 degrees, this helps both, steering to the left, and right, once I get the graphite steering upgrades I will try to get 90 degrees.

Cheers very happy
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptyTue May 25, 2010 7:50 pm

What will you do with 90deg of steering? =P

I wanted to give the Pitman steering a try, but I can't find a long-enough turnbuckle.


Goodluck on the project
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptyWed May 26, 2010 2:10 am

.j0sh wrote:
What will you do with 90deg of steering? =P

Really want to know?



Atsushi Kuroi FTW.

I haven't tried looking for a turnbuckle yet actually, but you don't NEED a turnbuckle, anything stiff from one knuckle to the other will do... And the Pitman bit isn't hard at all, considering all the other modifications you'll have to do that is...

CS your TA already! You're missing out on so much fun blum3
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptyWed May 26, 2010 11:22 am

That's about 70-80degs of steering.
90degress is just ridiculous. =P

I think the turnbuckle is a must because you can't really find a shaft that exactly reaches both knuckles without having a toe-in/out.
Do I have a point?

Everyone here has been telling me to shift to CS.
But I just want to collect a few more trophies before making that move. =P
Plus I need better (more durable) electronics.

And then I need to officially beat Eathan.....hehe.
(I'm waiting for you Eathan)
=P
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptyWed May 26, 2010 12:47 pm

start building that counter thingy so we can see how it goes ayt!?! smile
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptyWed May 26, 2010 2:06 pm

jebjeb wrote:
start building that counter thingy so we can see how it goes ayt!?! smile

I would, but the belts are with you blum3
If you're ever coming to Mirdif, let me know, I'll take them from you. smile

@Josh, I know, I can't bother modifying universals =/

Oh, and maybe you can use the steering turnbuckle from a M05 because the servo is mounted in the rear... So it's long. MAYBE.

Better electronics? Novak isn't good enough? very happy

You do have a point about the turnbuckle... Hmm...

Dayam, JJ closes tomorrow... Must find bulkheads... =/
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptyWed May 26, 2010 2:24 pm

Speaking of universals.
They won't reach the 90degrees angle.

I have an idea about a replacement but i'm not too sure if it'll fit.
I'll let you know if I succeed.

About the electronics,
I'm not even using 40% of my motor's total power, how much less if I switch to CS.
So I will definitely be needing a higher turn BL motor.
A coreless or brushless servo is also a must. Regular servos will die under the stress of CS.
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptyFri May 28, 2010 8:05 pm

Hey guys,

I just want to know if it is possible to do counter steering on a TB03D???? and what all will be required.im planning to upgrade from my current TL01..so i would just like to know

Thanks,
Lucas
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptyFri May 28, 2010 8:23 pm

Gears are a bit hard to find for shaft drives.

But I've seen Active Hobby release CS gears for the TT01.
That might be compatible with the TB03....emphasis on the 'might'.
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptyFri May 28, 2010 8:39 pm

Actually, you can modify a TB03D, it just requires patience.

You need the TN racing 43/13 gears for Yokomo cars, and the 2.0x gears. Then you'll have to get them to fit the gear boxes.

If you do try to do it, keep saying this to yourself...

"It's been done before, I can do it too!".

@Josh, oh look, I'm breaking my promise very happy
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptyFri May 28, 2010 9:18 pm

Your reply was more helpful than mine. =P
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptyFri May 28, 2010 10:34 pm

It always is... whistle

Just kidding blum3

By the way, I'm really interested in these...

Click me!

There a bit expensive though =/
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptyFri May 28, 2010 10:44 pm

3racing's turnbuckle set is also titanium.
Clicky

Another example of "value for your money".


But if you're looking for a specific turnbuckle size...then you're on your own.
=P

BTW.
It's been a while since I last visited RCmart...and it looks FUGLIER every year.
*Sarcastic Yeeeey*
(Again...just my opinion)
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptyFri May 28, 2010 11:24 pm

Wait, wait... I'm looking for turnbuckles for the pitman mod. Them 3Racing ones are far too small.

Haven't even measured the size yet, but I know I'll need some special ones or ones for crawlers, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptyFri May 28, 2010 11:29 pm

.j0sh wrote:
...then you're on your own.
=P

The TA05 3Racing turnbuckles are the same lengths of the turnbuckles that come with the TA05.

If 3Racing has some spare parts for crawlers, then they should also have some longer turnbuckles.
HTH.
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptyFri May 28, 2010 11:55 pm

@abdul... Your dad has a garage or a workshop right!? Why dont you customize your own turnbuckle instead. I'm sure you know how to and which site to go to and have a proper guidance... Oh im sorry, you dont need one.

Sir tomriv does his own customization and you should see his work of art.


Rcmart is a member of dubdrift and frequently visits the site. FYI...
thats where we get our orders... FYI

Hope you get my point
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptySat May 29, 2010 12:11 am

@Ian
Of course I know that RCmart is the local depot here, and they're doing a great job in supplying items.
But their site is ugly. Don't tell me that isn't obvious. =)

About the turnbuckle. That's a great idea Ian, but I think that would be a second choice.
It would be a lot less troublesome if Abdul could find a turnbuckle out there (and I know there is).

@Abdul
I just remember my friend's kit (why didn't I think of this earlier)
I'll check with my friend and ask what he used for his pitman steering.
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PostSubject: Re: TA05 counter steer project   TA05 counter steer project EmptySat May 29, 2010 3:07 am

@ Papi Ian, no, my dad's got a showroom, but he knows many garage owners and mechanics and stuff, as a lot of his work involves restoration. My dad is on a business trip to South Africa, and so I can't discuss the matter with him as yet, but that's a good idea, don't know why I didn't think of that my self smile

jebjeb wrote:
Oh im sorry, you dont need one.

Hmm... Hidden messages.... =/

@Josh, oh, please, do that! Much appreciated!
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