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PostSubject: SCALE COMP RULES   SCALE COMP RULES EmptySat Nov 20, 2010 2:10 pm

this is taken of RCCrawler.com ..... just to give the boys interested in scaling how to set up their scalers in lieu for a comp in the near future ....

FYI


Street Class

• Description - An off-road vehicle that you would " DRIVE " on the street or to the trail head
• 115mm / 4.5" max tire size with a max rim size of 2.2"
• No wheelbase limit- wheelbase must 'fit' vehicle concept/body.
• 12 Minimum Scale Points Required to compete.
• No max track width. Gates will be a minimum of 11" wide so mind your track width, measure from inside cone to inside cone.
• You may modify any tire that is not on the banned list as long as it fits the CLASS that you intend to run it in. You may NOT combine two different style of tires to make one.
• You must run a complete body, including bumpers, fenders, doors & tailgates. Some fender trimming is allowed but the basic shape must be retained, Fenders may be cut, or flat fendered, but it must resemble a 1:1 rig you'd see on the street. If you remove the tailgate, you must have a complete floor and drop bed. If you want to remove your doors, you must run a full interior. "Iffy" Vehicles must be approved by the Scale Nationals Committee members.
• A shortened or lengthened body is allowable. A tubed bed must have a Functional bed area capable of carrying a full-size spare laid flat (rear fender and tailgate rules do not apply to tubed beds).
• No 4 wheel steer or rear steer at all ! If you have more than 2 axles, the FRONT axles are the ONLY ones that can steer.
• No MOA axles of any kind.
• No " DIG " of any kind is allowed.
• Single engine rigs only.
• Wheelbase is limited only by your body, and must fit in your fender wells.
• Vehicle must have a frame-railed chassis. Tubed frame rails are ok.
• Vehicle battery must be mounted on the chassis. You CANNOT mount the battery ON the steering servo/axle/upper links. The goal is to place the battery where it is not visible for a more scale appearance.
• You may add weight to your wheels, but you are only allowed a maximum of 12 TOTAL oz's. You can put it in whichever wheels you want, but 12 oz is the total. Weight can only be added internally, no external wheel weight is allowed.
• You may only run 1 truck in each class, you Cannot run the same truck in both classes, each driver is allowed one entry. You may NOT share rigs with other drivers.
If you feel your rig is borderline, be prepared to modify it if it does not pass tech inspection. AND/ OR bring a BACKUP rig just in case.

Trail Class

• Description - An off-road vehicle that you would " TRAILER " to the trail head
• 140mm / 5.5" max tire size with a max rim size of 2.2"
• No wheelbase maximum- wheelbase must 'fit' truck concept/body.
• 15 Minimum Scale Points Required to compete.
• No max track width. Gates will be a minimum of 12" wide so mind your track width, measure from inside cone to inside cone.
• You may modify any tire that is NOT on the banned list as long as it fits the CLASS that you intend to run it in. You may NOT combine two different style of tires to make one.
• You must run a complete body, including bumpers, fenders, doors & tailgates. Some fender trimming is allowed but the basic shape must be retained, Fenders may be cut, or flat fendered, but it must resemble a 1:1 rig you'd see on the trail. If you remove the tailgate, you must have a complete floor and drop bed. If you want to remove your doors, you must run a full interior. "Iffy" Vehicles must be approved by the Scale Nationals Committee members.
• A shortened or lengthened body is allowable. A tubed bed must have a functional bed area capable of carrying a full-size spare laid flat (rear fender and tailgate rules do not apply to tubed beds).
• No 4 wheel steer or rear steer at all ! If you have more than 2 axles, the FRONT axles are the ONLY ones that can steer.
• No MOA axles of any kind.
• No " DIG " of any kind is allowed.
• Single engine rigs only.
• Wheelbase is limited only by your body, and must fit in your fender wells.
• Vehicle must have a frame-railed chassis. Tubed frame rails are ok.
• Vehicle battery must be mounted on the chassis. You CANNOT mount the battery ON the steering servo/axle/upper links. The goal is to place the battery where it is not visible for a more scale appearance.
• You may add weight to your wheels, but you are only allowed a maximum of 12 TOTAL oz's. You can put it in whichever wheels you want, but 12 oz is the total. Weight can only be added internally, no external wheel weight is allowed.
• You may only run 1 truck in each class, you Cannot run the same truck in both classes, each driver is allowed one entry. You may NOT share rigs with other drivers.
If you feel your rig is borderline, be prepared to modify it if it does not pass tech inspection. AND/ OR bring a BACKUP rig just incase.
• Not all 140mm / 5.5" tires will be allowed. Please see ban list below;

" TUBERS " If you plan to run a tuber in EITHER class, here is what you need to know. It must have a full interior, 2 front seats SIDE BY SIDE, a dash, a steering wheel, a hood panel, a roof panel and a left and right side panel. If it is a jeep, it needs to resemble a jeep. The minimum size for the tubers is as follows:

Height 5 " , measured from bottom of skid pan to the roof top
Width 5 " , measured from the middle of the door bars, side to side
length, your chassis needs to be ATLEAST as long as your wheelbase, measured with the front tires pointed straight and the vehicle at rest.

NOTE: this does not apply if you have a truggy or back halfed truck with a conventional frame and cab.


BOTH CLASSES, NO COMP OR TVP CHASSIS, NO FRAME EXTENSIONS TO MAKE IT SCALE EITHER, PERIOD. THIS IS A SCALE EVENT GUYS. Example of these chassis are: SWX, J2-TT, GC-2, edge, eclipse, hustler, etc....

Banned Tire List:

• Losi Claws and Comp Claws
• Imex red rocks, rubicons, truck pulls, skulls and bones
• Hot Bodies Rovers and Sedonas
• HPI Rock Grabbers
• All Panther Tires
• All Jconcepts Tires
• Full-width Mashers, narrowed are OK, no wider than 1.75".
• Pro-Line Chisels and Badlands
• RC4WD Rocklins, Crazy crawlers and X-locks
• Any on-road, buggy tires or truck racing type tire
• Non listed tires must be judged and we reserve the right to modify this list as new comp tires are released.



Scale points: Max -30.

• 12 min. points to run in the Street class. 30 pt max. 18 points max can go to final score.
• 15 min. points to run in the Trail class. 30 pts max. 15 points max can go to final score.

1. Full length hardbody -7, hardbody cab -5 (75% of existing body must be hard plastic or metal)

2. Full tube chassis, permanently attached to frame -7 (with plastic panels -1, metal -3) Max of (-10)

3. Full tube chassis bolted to frame -5 (plastic panels -1, metal -3) Max of ( -8 )

4. Leaf springs (1 axle -2, both -5)

5. Interior (lexan cover -1, w/half driver -2, 3D Interior -3, with action figure
human driver " atleast 75% of body " ( -5)

6. Spare tire functional must be within 1/4" diameter of tires on rig, (-3)

7. Functional winch (-3)

8. Led's ,must have 2 headlights and 2 taillights, and must be on during comp, (-2)

9. Bumpers (Must be attached to frame) Plastic -1 front, -1 rear. Metal -2 front, -2 rear, -5 for both metal only. Must look like 1:1 bumpers.

10. FULL features - Exo-cage, Tube bed, Full 6-point roll cage. Must be made of metal. (-4 each, plastic -1 each)

11. MINOR features - Rock sliders ( must have left and right ), Roof rack, spare tire rack, ladder rack, tube light rack on roof (with lights), tube fenders (must have front and rear) must be made of METAL, (1) item -2 (2) items -4 (3) items -5 max. Plastic -1 each -3 max.

12. Boat or canoe. Must be removable. (-3)

13. Chassis mounted steering servo .(-5)

14. Accessories: Firewood " atleast 8 pieces ", "Functional " tow strap, hi-lift jack, tools, pick, jerry can, d-rings, snatch block, camping gear, shovel, axe, cooler, sleeping bag, tent.

15. Drivetrain Accessories: 3D engine, exhaust, fuel cell, hitch, mud flaps " must have atleast 2 "

* Accessories & Drivetrain : if you have three items or more, –3, no duplicates. If only two items –2, one item –1.


Scoring Points :

• Gate progress -1
• Reverse +1, you will get 1 free reverse per gate * see below *
• Gate +5
• Reposition +20 : Vehicle may be placed anywhere that it had previously progressed, judges discretion.
• Rollover +5
• Touch +5, whether you touch it or someone else does.
• Repair +10, " 30 minute limit " you will receive 1 minute added to your time when you return to the course.
• Winching / Rescue , you +2, get help +10 (a winch point is received each time a winch hook is anchored.) * see below *
• DNF highest score +20
• DNS highest score +50
• Unpowered rollbacks are considered a reverse. If your tire rolls backward more
than 1/4 turn, It will be considered a reverse by the judge.


• Winching:

- if you use YOUR winch on YOUR truck, +2 , each time the hook is anchored.
- if someone winches you or tow straps you , Rescue +10, each time the hook is anchored.

• Tire Modding:

- You may mod any tire that is NOT on the ban list as long as it fits in the CLASS you intend to run it in.
- No modified tire can be a mixture of different tires.
- Not all 140mm / 5.5" tires will be allowed. Please see ban list

• Courses:

- There will be 4 courses and a finals course for the top 5 finishers.
- There will be 8-10 gates and a time limit of approx 8 min on each course.

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PostSubject: Re: SCALE COMP RULES   SCALE COMP RULES EmptySat Nov 20, 2010 5:03 pm

I saw 'must be a frame rail chassis', that means no cc01/xc chassis. Obviously this rule would have to change for Dubai even if its just a single exception for cc01's.

Duane CC01 owner.
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PostSubject: Re: SCALE COMP RULES   SCALE COMP RULES EmptySat Nov 20, 2010 5:21 pm

One thing im confused about, my RC4WD Gelande, since its set up as a trail rig, but looks scale just because of the Land Rover Body, does that mean its still a street rig?
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PostSubject: Re: SCALE COMP RULES   SCALE COMP RULES EmptySat Nov 20, 2010 5:54 pm

i really dont know guys .... as i stated .... this was taken from RCCrawler.com and that they are the gurus of crawling worldwide ....

i believe this was the scale rule base for the recently concluded SCALE NATIONALS ...

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PostSubject: Re: SCALE COMP RULES   SCALE COMP RULES EmptySun Nov 21, 2010 2:14 pm

Strawb,

just a suggestion here

probably no need for all these rules as you guys are just starting scaling.

just keep it simple to start with maybe just some basic tyre and chassis regulations.

then once it gets going you can add the various rules/classes as you see fit very happy

like i said just a suggestion laughing
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PostSubject: Re: SCALE COMP RULES   SCALE COMP RULES EmptySun Nov 21, 2010 3:01 pm

+100 on that paul. . . . let's have fun playing around with the rigs first. . . then maybe soon we can set-up basic regulations. . ..

honestly i'm not thinking of comping a scaler. . . i just wanna have fun bashing with the other guys. . .

I will comp with my LCC, but i still need to practice using the dig. . . . thumbs_up
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PostSubject: Re: SCALE COMP RULES   SCALE COMP RULES EmptySun Nov 21, 2010 3:36 pm

paul,

i just posted this as reference ... no pressure ... just thought it would be nice to let the other guys understand how the boys from RCC are doing it ...

i dont even have a scaler to join in on the scaling the dubai boys are planning anyway

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PostSubject: Re: SCALE COMP RULES   SCALE COMP RULES EmptySun Nov 21, 2010 4:23 pm

strawb,

yeah figured as much! anyway its good to have as a reference and its worth a read to understand the complexity of scaling!

but in the mean time i think richards idea of "let's have fun playing around with the rigs first" makes the most sense 2thumbsup

you got any plans for a scale rig strawb?
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PostSubject: Re: SCALE COMP RULES   SCALE COMP RULES EmptySun Nov 21, 2010 4:53 pm

@paul ...... comp crawling is something i really have the passion for .... i can hang out and watch the guys have fun trailing with the scalers but i dont have the budget to get me one as of the moment ....

just sold my R1 fastabck and im in the process of building another comp rig (still shopping though)

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