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LaNcE
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PostSubject: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptyThu Jul 09, 2009 5:28 am

Here's my new kit guys..

'Hope you like it..


Special thanks to:

Papee Ian aka "jebolution" for bringing this here from HK through RCMart.
Josh for the 3Racing center pulley
Jon for coming with me to Hobby Center where i got most of my OD mods
Ryan for letting me swap his 18T pinion gear.

We tried the overdrive mod earlier this evening so forgive me for the dusty parts.
and the wires.. looks like spaghetti on a plate.

Here we go..


Tamiya TA-05 IFS ver.II

- Tamiya Front One-way
- Tamiya Flourine Coated Damper Set (from my TT-01)
- Tamiya Touring Car Accessories
- HPI Volks Racing Wheels (but will later on be replaced with a Yokomo Enkei)
- HPI Bridgestone Potenza Drift Tires (T-Drift)
- JR Propo ES 579 Digital Metal Gear Servo
- Novak Slydr ESC with 7.5T Drift Motor
- Yeah Racing Tornado Cooling fan (really helps keep the ESC cool even with long drift runs)
- JR Propo 2.4GHz DSX3 Spread Spectrum Technology Remote Control System


TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive Dsc04714q

TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive Dsc04699copy

TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive Dsc04700copy

TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive Dsc04715o


Overdrive Mods

- Front : 39T pulley(kyosho) paired with 16T (3racing) center pulley = 2.44
- Rear : 33T pulley (kyosho) paired with 18T center pulley = 1.83
- Spur/Pinion : currently 70/20 but will change to 70/18 = 3.89

Bringing my FDR to 7.12 considering the ratio for the rear which brings more load to the motor

I used a kyosho center pulley as a tensioner. I put a tamiya bearing, the ones you put in the wheel axle (had to sacrifice one from my old TT-01), in it to reduce friction ~ heat.
Some spare plastic parts, and thank God I was able to save some parts of my tamiya mini 4wd. it did a lot of help.
I had to reamer the bearing's way in. It wasn't as easy but it was all worth it.

FYI: the length of the belt DOES NOT affect the gear ratio. it only serves as a link between the center and the front or rear differential pulley.
it's just like the pinion and the spur if you look at it. Only they're farther away from each other


Here are some close-up pics of the mods..


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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptyThu Jul 09, 2009 6:04 am

WWOOOWW!!! Well done sir lance... very nice in deed....
The very first Over Drive Kit in the Group and if I'm not mistaken in UAE!
Congrats to your new Project!!

Can I try it on Sat...(you did not mentioned my pinion waheheh) wink
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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptyThu Jul 09, 2009 7:12 am

JRacing wrote:
WWOOOWW!!! Well done sir lance... very nice in deed....
The very first Over Drive Kit in the Group and if I'm not mistaken in UAE!
Congrats to your new Project!!

Can I try it on Sat...(you did not mentioned my pinion waheheh) wink

sure thing..

hehe!
not yet installed..
i'll edit the first post..

thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptyThu Jul 09, 2009 11:56 am

Good job lance. the kit's handling was great. felt like a DK when i tried it last night :king:
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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptyThu Jul 09, 2009 12:09 pm

wow thats a nice OD you got there! yee lance.. i told you i have spare tension pulley that would fit in yur project... i'll bring it this drift meet ayt? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptyThu Jul 09, 2009 1:10 pm

jebolution wrote:
wow thats a nice OD you got there! yee lance.. i told you i have spare tension pulley that would fit in yur project... i'll bring it this drift meet ayt? scratch

a'ight!

we'll check it out this saturday..

thanks paps!
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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptyThu Jul 09, 2009 1:23 pm

yeah!!! overdrive can i try it on saturday? very happy very happy very happy
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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptyThu Jul 09, 2009 1:39 pm

street_sweeper wrote:
yeah!!! oerdrive can i try it on saturday? very happy very happy very happy

of course!

just a warning, maybe you'll pursue your papa to get you a belt driven chassis.. wink

hehe..
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PostSubject: re:TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptyThu Jul 09, 2009 6:16 pm

well done sir:)
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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptyThu Jul 09, 2009 7:11 pm

Hmm. I was suppose to be the first...grr...=P
You didn't use the Atomic tensioner?
Can't wait to try. +D
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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptyFri Jul 10, 2009 1:09 am

waahahahaaa :affraid: :affraid: :affraid: nice set up ser lance,,, i wish iwish...........
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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptyFri Jul 10, 2009 5:25 am

great job lance...
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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptySat Aug 01, 2009 12:24 am

update:

replaced the pulleys as follows:

front: 40/16
rear: 33/23
counter-steer angle: more evident..

'will post pics and vid later..

thanks guys!
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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptySat Aug 01, 2009 2:53 am

hey all,

this might sound like a noob question but i dont exactly know what overdrive is....i can see some mechanical changes to this belt driven chassis, but what is it and what does it do?......a wild guess from me is that it puts more pressure on the belt so giving more response and possibly speed.......... blush blush scratch
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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptySat Aug 01, 2009 7:39 am

overdrive mod makes your rear wheels spin more than the front. sliding would be much more easier with better drift control. but will still depend on your driving skills of course clown

nice work lance.. lets see how it performs tomorrow.
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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptySat Aug 01, 2009 4:16 pm

Since the rear wheels spin more than the front wheels, you can sustain a better drift angle for a longer period of time.
Here's a video to help you understand. Focus on the front wheels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfAUTE5x_jk&feature=related

@Jay
You forgot the mention that the overdrive mod doesn't really apply to a shafty. =P
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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptySat Aug 01, 2009 5:15 pm

for now clown
reckracing is already working on tims tt01..
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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptySat Aug 01, 2009 6:27 pm

it's actually possible to do this on a shaft driven chassis but there will be extensive modifications that has to be done..

it's only easier on a belt driven chassis because there is a vast availability of pulleys in different sizes..
though most of them will not snap into place, it's still relatively easier to modify to make it fit..

if only manufacturers would produce compatible bevel/differential gears for SD chassis, it would be much, much easier..
and i would prefer a shaft driven chassis over a belt driven one any day if it has the same availability of
parts as the latter..

i'm still for an SD.. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptySat Aug 01, 2009 8:15 pm

Here are the latest pics of the chassis and the Overdrive mod..

Specs:

Front:
- 16T center pulley from 3racing (not moded)
- 40T differential pulley from Team Associated (increased the size of the center hole to fit the Tamiya FOW)

Rear
- 23T center pulley from HPI
mod:
1. had to cut it in half 'coz it was too thick to fit.
2. increased the center hole to fit the spur gear holder.
3. had to fix 2 medium-length grub screws to make it rotate with the spur.

- 33T differential pulley from kyosho
mod: had to increase the center hole to make it fit the Tamiya rear spool (front direct coupling)


Close-up on the center pulleys

TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive 001hpq

TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive 003fia

Notice the screws encircled:
- had to let it protrude so it won't stick to the other pulley and avoid damage on the belt.

TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive P8010004001

TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive P8010005001


40T Front differential pulley

TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive 004pjr



Chassis Pics:

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TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive 015dak

TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive 005uip


Thanks to everyone for the help and inputs..

Now, it's time to counter-steer! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptySat Aug 01, 2009 8:42 pm

Huwawaweee....
We need a video for this. =D
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PostSubject: Re: TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive   TA-05 IFS ver. II - Overdrive EmptyFri Aug 21, 2009 2:51 am

Update:

Got some new combi for the rear pulleys..

32/25..

now it's really, really counter-steering..

twisted evil twisted evil twisted evil

have a taste on saturday..
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