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LaNcE
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PostSubject: Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion   Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion EmptyThu Nov 24, 2011 5:26 pm

This is gonna be a long project.. neutral

Main Chassis = TB-03D
Will be using M-chassis gear set

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Let me know what you think.. thumbs_up
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PostSubject: Re: Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion   Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion EmptyThu Nov 24, 2011 8:07 pm

looks promising lance

i think it would be easier to use the graphite or carbon flat chassis to do this conversion ... the tub just seems it has so much plastic in the way

which can all be cleared off by a dremel very happy
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PostSubject: Re: Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion   Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion EmptyThu Nov 24, 2011 10:19 pm

strawb wrote:


which can all be cleared off by a dremel very happy

This is where you and your dremel come into play.. very happy

I'll try it out on the tub first.. If all's not well, then it's time to get a lower deck.. very happy


Thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion   Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion EmptyFri Nov 25, 2011 12:17 am

Hmmm.... I'm looking forward for this conversion.....

That is why i'm still holding on to my TB-03D up to now....... Hard to let go... smile
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PostSubject: Re: Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion   Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion EmptyFri Nov 25, 2011 12:31 am

Scrap the mini gearset bollox....

Just shove THIS up front hang2
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PostSubject: Re: Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion   Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion EmptyFri Nov 25, 2011 2:16 am

Thanks Jarwin! Where are you?!


@andy, That is some sick mother lovin' machine! thumbs_up
Well worthy of its price but just a little out of my budget.. very happy

Thanks for sharing though..

The main reason I'm opting to use M-chassis gear set is to mount the motor in the centerline and as low as possible without having to use a smaller spur/pinion combo.
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PostSubject: Re: Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion   Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion EmptySun Nov 27, 2011 2:07 pm

Doing some maths.
It looks like I'll need to gear up the TB-03's rear differential.

Since the M-chassis gears are pretty much set, I need to adjust on the rear IDR.
I'm looking for an ideal FDR of 7.0 and I'll try as much as possible to put it near that.
Looking at brushed motor/ESC combo.. Nothing fancy. Atleast not yet.


Diff Gear = 39T
Counter Gear = 27/16
Spur Gear = 37/21

TB-o3D IDR = 2.438

With these numbers, I'm gonna be needing a 40T, 0.6P pinion.
Where do you get this much of a pinion?!

But if I gear up the rear diff to 1.5, it'll only require a 24~25T pinion.. neutral



Still on the design stage.
Will keep you updated with the progress (hopefully).. very happy




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PostSubject: Re: Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion   Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion EmptySun Nov 27, 2011 5:08 pm


if it's RWD only i think you dont need to use that TB-O3 OD parts

the stock gear will do to minimized the thermal problem wink


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PostSubject: Re: Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion   Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion EmptySun Nov 27, 2011 5:41 pm

@jon, thanks for the input..

I'm starting to consider other options like FF-03/Sakura FF gear set instead of the Mini's.

The reason why I might opt for this OD gears is that the M-chassis gear set are already geared down. Having a 20T pinion in a Mini gives you an FDR of 5.8. Considering the Mini's IDR, multiplied by the TB-03's IDR and you get a really high FDR = 10.521 with a 27T pinion. As I mentioned above, If I wanted a 7.0 FDR, I will need a 40T, 0.6p pinion.

This is starting to get a little harder than the Sakura Conversion.. neutral




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PostSubject: Re: Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion   Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion EmptyWed Nov 30, 2011 10:12 pm

LaNcE wrote:
@jon, thanks for the input..

I'm starting to consider other options like FF-03/Sakura FF gear set instead of the Mini's.

The reason why I might opt for this OD gears is that the M-chassis gear set are already geared down. Having a 20T pinion in a Mini gives you an FDR of 5.8. Considering the Mini's IDR, multiplied by the TB-03's IDR and you get a really high FDR = 10.521 with a 27T pinion. As I mentioned above, If I wanted a 7.0 FDR, I will need a 40T, 0.6p pinion.

This is starting to get a little harder than the Sakura Conversion.. neutral





I have a shelved TB03 project years back like yours using an electrifly GD600.
I dont want to mess up my chassis. If there is any free donor for prototyping.
I can revive this project


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PostSubject: Re: Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion   Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion EmptyThu Dec 01, 2011 2:30 pm

Another great project Sir! Idol!

I hope you get a donor.. thumbs_up

I think the motor is sitting a bit too high and may touch the bonnet of the body.
Can it not be set lower?
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PostSubject: Re: Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion   Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion EmptyThu Dec 01, 2011 6:23 pm

Hi Lance

Yes it can be lowered by removing a lot of materials from the donnor chassis
and mounting the motor below. But this will make the prop line not level.
Or I am thinking of making a flat chassis out of 3 mm black acrylic ,
With matching motor mount. Inshallah during my next vacation.
I may need a lot of motivation and input from you.
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PostSubject: Re: Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion   Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion EmptyThu Dec 08, 2011 1:50 am

hmmnn..

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PostSubject: Re: Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion   Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion EmptyTue Oct 23, 2012 3:10 am

tomriv wrote:
LaNcE wrote:
@jon, thanks for the input..

I'm starting to consider other options like FF-03/Sakura FF gear set instead of the Mini's.

The reason why I might opt for this OD gears is that the M-chassis gear set are already geared down. Having a 20T pinion in a Mini gives you an FDR of 5.8. Considering the Mini's IDR, multiplied by the TB-03's IDR and you get a really high FDR = 10.521 with a 27T pinion. As I mentioned above, If I wanted a 7.0 FDR, I will need a 40T, 0.6p pinion.

This is starting to get a little harder than the Sakura Conversion.. neutral





I have a shelved TB03 project years back like yours using an electrifly GD600.
I dont want to mess up my chassis. If there is any free donor for prototyping.
I can revive this project


Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion P1011722

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please man, can you revive the topic about TB03 RWD conversion? I'm almost getting one for really cheap, but first I want 2 do a RWD conversion(just like above pictures), since I've already an front motor CS chassis, I thought it could be a good one mod. such as the Wrap Up Next FR-D conversion chassis for the yoke mr4-tc Drift package (type-c)... but in FR-D chassis it have 4 pinion gears, but the gearcase it's just like these one, isn't?? I would say identical hahaha (sorry about my awful english) Well my good mate, can you help this rookie drifter??? =)
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PostSubject: Re: Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion   Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion EmptyTue Oct 23, 2012 12:42 pm

If you're referring to TomRiv's project, I'm not sure where he is right now. But he's not been around for quite some time now.



If it were of my project, thanks for the interest. I've swapped my TB-03D for a TA-05v2 since I have another car for drifting. The whole project was scrapped.

Yes, it is 'identical' to the FR-D conversion from Wrap-Up Next. Basically the same principles in gearing down and keeping the prop in line with the rear diffs. But I think the FR-D Conversion is going to be very noisy with all the metal gears.

You probably can take measurements and work with what you have. Just make sure the propeller shaft is straight and everything is running smooth. Gear mesh is very important.

Let me know how you progress and maybe I'd be able to help you with my limited knowledge. very happy
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PostSubject: Re: Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion   Project: RWD/FM TB-03 Conversion EmptySun Nov 04, 2012 8:09 am

personally i don't think there's enough benefit for having motor directly at front axle
vs work/engineering required

best manufactured solution is Eagle's TB03 GRT conversion:-

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TBs can also be DIY flipped for not much effort...

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TB03 can be source for parts for custom RWD chassis... here's one using TB EvoIV:-

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